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⚸ Free Black Moon Lilith Calculator — Mean and True

Umbriel's free Black Moon Lilith calculator finds your Lilith in both the Mean and the True calculation, with sign, exact degree and house. No account, no email. The two can sit as much as thirty degrees apart — a whole sign — which is why Lilith is the placement websites disagree about most.

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What Black Moon Lilith actually is

Black Moon Lilith is not an object. It is the lunar apogee: the far focus of the Moon's orbit, the empty point the Moon is furthest from Earth at. Because it is a point rather than a body, there is more than one defensible way to calculate it — and that is the source of nearly every argument about Lilith on the internet.

⚠️ The Mean Black Moon Lilith is the smoothed, average apogee, moving evenly through the zodiac in about nine years. The True or osculating Lilith is where the apogee actually is at that instant, and the Moon's orbit is pulled about so hard by the Sun that the true apogee swings back and forth around the mean — sometimes by tens of degrees, and it goes retrograde regularly. Two sites can therefore give you Liliths a full sign apart and both be right about what they calculated.

It gets worse before it gets better: at least two other things are also called Lilith — asteroid 1181 Lilith, a genuine rock, and the hypothetical Dark Moon Lilith, which is a different idea again. If a site does not say which one it means, its answer cannot be compared with anyone else's. Umbriel shows the Mean and the True together and labels them, so you can see the disagreement instead of inheriting it.

What's in your result

Common questions

Why is my Lilith different on different websites?

Because they are calculating different things. Mean Black Moon Lilith is a smoothed average of the lunar apogee; True or osculating Lilith is the apogee's actual position, which swings around the mean by a large margin and can put it in a different sign entirely. Add asteroid 1181 Lilith and the hypothetical Dark Moon Lilith and there are four candidates. Umbriel gives Mean and True together and says which is which.

What is the difference between True Lilith and Mean Lilith?

Mean Lilith moves evenly, completing a circuit in about nine years. True Lilith is the real osculating apogee, which the Sun's pull drags back and forth — it wanders around the mean position and turns retrograde regularly. Neither is wrong; they are different quantities that share a name.

Which Lilith should I use?

Most books, most courses and most sites default to the Mean, so if you want to be understood in conversation, quote that one. If you want the position the sky was actually in, use the True. Umbriel gives you both so the choice is yours and visible.

Is Black Moon Lilith a real object?

No. It is a geometric point — the far focus of the Moon's orbit — not a body. Asteroid 1181 is a real rock but is a completely different thing that happens to share the name.

Is this Lilith calculator free?

Yes — both Liliths, with signs, degrees, houses and aspects, and no account or email.

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